Politics and Music

[Gave 'M a Swirly]

I have little time for the combination of politics and music. A sprinkle here and there is fine, but bands and artists that make 80 to 90% of their catalog political? No thanks. I want music to be an escape. If I want politics, I'll turn on the news. When I put on a CD, "I want to rock about it - not talk about it." (Hey -I kinda like that). What are your feelings?

[The Dude]

I have little time for the combination of politics and music. A sprinkle here and there is fine, but bands and artists that make 80 to 90% of their catalog political? No thanks. I want music to be an escape. If I want politics, I'll turn on the news. When I put on a CD, "I want to rock about it - not talk about it." (Hey -I kinda like that). What are your feelings?

There's U2 thread somewheres...other than them...throw some band names out there that do that.

[Gave 'M a Swirly]

I have little time for the combination of politics and music. A sprinkle here and there is fine, but bands and artists that make 80 to 90% of their catalog political? No thanks. I want music to be an escape. If I want politics, I'll turn on the news. When I put on a CD, "I want to rock about it - not talk about it." (Hey -I kinda like that). What are your feelings?

There's U2 thread somewheres...other than them...throw some band names out there that do that.

I'd say Rage Against The Machine, System of a Down, bands like that. Even Green Day are jumping on the band-wagon now.

[the deta]

I have little time for the combination of politics and music. A sprinkle here and there is fine, but bands and artists that make 80 to 90% of their catalog political? No thanks. I want music to be an escape. If I want politics, I'll turn on the news. When I put on a CD, "I want to rock about it - not talk about it." (Hey -I kinda like that). What are your feelings?

There's U2 thread somewheres...other than them...throw some band names out there that do that.

I'd say Rage Against The Machine, System of a Down, bands like that. Even Green Day are jumping on the band-wagon now.


Rage Against the machine rocks. I dont care what their political views are and it doesnt bother me if they are in their music if the music rocking i am down. However they broke up when they should have, their schtick was getting tired, but in my opinion they made some cool music. Green Day is a joke. Their new album sounds exactly the same as the album i bought from them 10 years ago. Way to evolve Greenday.

Wasn't it phil who said something to the effect of - The real American Idiots are the people buying the green day album to here 12 songs all using no more than 3 chords?

[Vako]

It is nice when I am in the mood to hear about politics, but I concur that it is annoying to have it spouted at one when he just wants to hear nice music. I happen to listen to alot of music with very spiritual lyrics, and fun lyrics, but if I wanted to know the damn opinions of the artist I would go to their official website (and they even lay it on thick there sometimes, also). Alot of very political lyrics means that the artist is trying to push an agenda, and sometimes that is not what one wants when he is looking just to be entertained.

I do appreciate such passion, though. Sometimes it's nice to know that an artist stands for something.

[Dr. P]

I have little time for the combination of politics and music. A sprinkle here and there is fine, but bands and artists that make 80 to 90% of their catalog political? No thanks. I want music to be an escape. If I want politics, I'll turn on the news. When I put on a CD, "I want to rock about it - not talk about it." (Hey -I kinda like that). What are your feelings?

There's U2 thread somewheres...other than them...throw some band names out there that do that.

I'd say Rage Against The Machine, System of a Down, bands like that. Even Green Day are jumping on the band-wagon now.

Green Day Jumping? Harry Belefonte couldn't match that! For what it's worth, communist Rolling Stone Magazine pimped that band like a cheap whore after that album was released and made them millions. So it was a smart commercail move on their part. But so many bands have gone political after gaining notoriety, and most nose-dived like David Carouso's career. Laura Ingraham said it best, "Shut up and sing!"

[Gave 'M a Swirly]

It is nice when I am in the mood to hear about politics, but I concur that it is annoying to have it spouted at one when he just wants to hear nice music. I happen to listen to alot of music with very spiritual lyrics, and fun lyrics, but if I wanted to know the damn opinions of the artist I would go to their official website (and they even lay it on thick there sometimes, also). Alot of very political lyrics means that the artist is trying to push an agenda, and sometimes that is not what one wants when he is looking just to be entertained.

I do appreciate such passion, though. Sometimes it's nice to know that an artist stands for something.

You had some good points. And you're right - why not leave the opinions on politics to their websites? That seems like the place to diseminate the agenda.

[Dr. P]

Or stick it in the album sleeve. Damn, I'm showing my ever-increasing age. CD sleeve.

[Gave 'M a Swirly]

Or stick it in the album sleeve. Damn, I'm showing my ever-increasing age. CD sleeve.

You got that right RP - I make the same mistake. :lol:

[Mr. Irrelevant]

Theycan get political in their songs, as long as they are good. I just don't want to hear their garbage at a concert, before they begin to play. Or when they are up getting their grammy award. Just shut up about Bush... thank your mom, your dad and your agent, blow a kiss to the crowd, hold up your award and then sit your ass down.

[nate]

Their music is their art, it's what they do, so I dunno that it's fair to ask them not to express whatever they feel like expressing. Be it politics, or their feelings on the tuna sandwich they ate last week.

If you don't like the viewpoints they're pushing, just don't listen to them or buy their albums.

Should Phil refrain from expressing HIS political views on the radio?

[The Dude]

Theycan get political in their songs, as long as they are good. I just don't want to hear their garbage at a concert, before they begin to play. Or when they are up getting their grammy award. Just shut up about Bush... thank your mom, your dad and your agent, blow a kiss to the crowd, hold up your award and then sit your ass down.

I went to the last U2 show that came though, and there was a "political statement" between pretty much every song. Tiresome doesn't even begin to describe it.

[Belasco]

The Green Day thing really pisses me off because they don't really make an argument. The just name call and do it in a very uninteresting way. I have no problem with musicians expressing their political opinion in music - it's a form of artistic expression. I only have a problem when the music sucks.

Doug Dannger said it best, "If you like picking corn out of a baby's diaper, you'll love the new 'Green Day' album".

Even though I disagree with their politics, I still like Bruce Springsteen and Don Henley.

[Dr. P]

Their music is their art, it's what they do, so I dunno that it's fair to ask them not to express whatever they feel like expressing. Be it politics, or their feelings on the tuna sandwich they ate last week.

Neither of those subjects are going to make a good album. You want to have one song about capatilism or tuna sandwiches, that might be novel. But track after f'ing track.... Jeez! :roll:

[Dr. P]

Should Phil refrain from expressing HIS political views on the radio?
Sadly, he has. But there is a differnence in the mediums. I can listen to political talk (in doses) or music. I don't want to hear a talker go on and on about music. Nor do I want to hear a band go on and on about politics. I'm to the right of center, so they're aren't any bands that sing about my philosophy. I can only imagine how irritatingly gay it would sound, though!

[Clint Yeastwood]

I have little time for the combination of politics and music. A sprinkle here and there is fine, but bands and artists that make 80 to 90% of their catalog political? No thanks. I want music to be an escape. If I want politics, I'll turn on the news. When I put on a CD, "I want to rock about it - not talk about it." (Hey -I kinda like that). What are your feelings?

There's U2 thread somewheres...other than them...throw some band names out there that do that.

I'd say Rage Against The Machine, System of a Down, bands like that. Even Green Day are jumping on the band-wagon now.


Rage Against the machine rocks. I dont care what their political views are and it doesnt bother me if they are in their music if the music rocking i am down. However they broke up when they should have, their schtick was getting tired, but in my opinion they made some cool music. Green Day is a joke. Their new album sounds exactly the same as the album i bought from them 10 years ago. Way to evolve Greenday.
Wasn't it phil who said something to the effect of - The real American Idiots are the people buying the green day album to here 12 songs all using no more than 3 chords?

indeed general.

[Mr. Irrelevant]

Their music is their art, it's what they do, so I dunno that it's fair to ask them not to express whatever they feel like expressing. Be it politics, or their feelings on the tuna sandwich they ate last week.

If you don't like the viewpoints they're pushing, just don't listen to them or buy their albums.

Should Phil refrain from expressing HIS political views on the radio?

I don't listen or buy there crap. I don't care if they express there views, I just think their idiots for actually thinking that we give two shits about it. and of course Phil should not refrain, he actually thinks about what he says before he speaks. That's all I want to see from these other bone-smokers.

[Mr. Irrelevant]

Theycan get political in their songs, as long as they are good. I just don't want to hear their garbage at a concert, before they begin to play. Or when they are up getting their grammy award. Just shut up about Bush... thank your mom, your dad and your agent, blow a kiss to the crowd, hold up your award and then sit your ass down.

I went to the last U2 show that came though, and there was a "political statement" between pretty much every song. Tiresome doesn't even begin to describe it.

My point exactly

[Gave 'M a Swirly]

It's really difficult to imagine people like Brian Johnson from AC/DC, Paul Stanley, or even Mick Jagger, just to name a few, EVER spouting off about anything remotely political during one of their concerts. It's probably one of the reasons those bands are so beloved, and still around, because they keep the music simple and fun, and steer clear of politics. I really admire that.

[The Dude]

It's really difficult to imagine people like Brian Johnson from AC/DC, Paul Stanley, or even Mick Jagger, just to name a few, EVER spouting off about anything remotely political during one of their concerts. It's probably one of the reasons those bands are so beloved, and still around, because they keep the music simple and fun, and steer clear of politics. I really admire that.

I thought the Stones just wrote a very political song trashing W. Bush.

EDIT__
Just looked it up: Sweet Neo Con

From some news source:
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"How come you're so wrong,
My sweet neo con?
Where's the money gone,
In the Pentagon?"

The Stones' frontman is unapologetic and the group has little to fear. Jagger says the song came out of an argument he had with some "Republican friends". "We disagreed and we argued about Iraq," he said in a recent interview with CNN.

[Gave 'M a Swirly]

It's really difficult to imagine people like Brian Johnson from AC/DC, Paul Stanley, or even Mick Jagger, just to name a few, EVER spouting off about anything remotely political during one of their concerts. It's probably one of the reasons those bands are so beloved, and still around, because they keep the music simple and fun, and steer clear of politics. I really admire that.

I thought the Stones just wrote a very political song trashing W. Bush.

Just looked it up: Sweet Neo Con

From some news source:
------------
"How come you're so wrong,
My sweet neo con?
Where's the money gone,
In the Pentagon?"

The Stones' frontman is unapologetic and the group has little to fear. Jagger says the song came out of an argument he had with some "Republican friends". "We disagreed and we argued about Iraq," he said in a recent interview with CNN.

You're right. I'm not sure they make a habit of it though. Having said that, that certainly is a political one. I'm not a big Stones fan, but I do respect them.

[The Dude]

You're right. I'm not sure they make a habit of it though. Having said that, that certainly is a political one. I'm not a big Stones fan, but I do respect them.

I don't know either, and I wasn't trying to "getcha" with that quote, I was just curious if you were aware of this and wheter it was something they do alot or not.

[Dr. P]

It's really difficult to imagine people like Brian Johnson from AC/DC, Paul Stanley, or even Mick Jagger, just to name a few, EVER spouting off about anything remotely political during one of their concerts. It's probably one of the reasons those bands are so beloved, and still around, because they keep the music simple and fun, and steer clear of politics. I really admire that.
The Stones are on the Green Day bandwagon now. Not like anyone is listening to it like it was "Jumping Jack Flash," (let alone buying in that volume) just thought you'd want to know.

[Gave 'M a Swirly]

You're right. I'm not sure they make a habit of it though. Having said that, that certainly is a political one. I'm not a big Stones fan, but I do respect them.

I don't know either, and I wasn't trying to "getcha" with that quote, I was just curious if you were aware of this and wheter it was something they do alot or not.

When I read your response, it jogged my memory and I do remember it now. When the Stones release a new CD, there really isn't the fanfare of the halcyon days. I wonder if the "political" song was a an attempt at a bit of controversy? Who knows?

[Gave 'M a Swirly]

It's really difficult to imagine people like Brian Johnson from AC/DC, Paul Stanley, or even Mick Jagger, just to name a few, EVER spouting off about anything remotely political during one of their concerts. It's probably one of the reasons those bands are so beloved, and still around, because they keep the music simple and fun, and steer clear of politics. I really admire that.
The Stones are on the Green Day bandwagon now. Not like anyone is listening to it like it was "Jumping Jack Flash," (let alone buying in that volume) just thought you'd want to know.

I agree.

[Dr. P]

Damn, I missed alot between where my page was and what had gone on in this thread! Sorry! :?